Thursday, November 3, 2011

Queen Liliuokalani's Issues Remained With the U.S. President Alone - Executive Agreement Verified - Part 2

does my grandfather need to make a written statement for saturday?
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Hi Kaiulani......having fun posting cartoons now..lol..check out the blogs too.....aloha.
I have followed your notification to KSBE, awesome job. I read it a few months back on 'iolani hawk. Our family has noted what necessary steps are necessary... Mahalo no kou kokua.....
amelia, Wrote about the spirits and all that stuff on another posting, but just wanted to say thank you for all your contribution to this forum. I so appreciate your presence on this forum.
Amelia, this is a reposting Sheridan Collins, It's almost 5 am in the morning the day after Halloween and lot's of sugar eaten by our children in Hawaii, lot's of tummy aches too. I wanted to get back to an earlier piece that you had posted. One said, "You can't just say WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED." which is where I was before college and after college. For many years, I couldn't put together my tallents and other peoples talents. I recently got to see Dr. Haunani K Trask and I told her that although, I lived in the UH dorms for ten years of my life the one regret I have --that I never took any of her classes. I recently realized that one needs a theory or argument in order to express oneself clearly and for action. Now that I am back home from those empty years, I'm actually back to square one. Although, I am a lot more clear'er and adjusting to the community and the contentions, I realized that I have talents to tell what is 'happening' however, am sure that the action part I fall short. I am in full confrontation with other Maoli people because they have neither. Knowledge of our community and what's it like to go to college are missing from too many people. What I do on Maoliworld is recent, and the team work with Amelia took a whole lot of bandering. We have been in battle's I believe on Maoliworld for almost a year. I do the daily community 'what's happening' and Amelia knows that I am clarifying in my many postings there after which takes awhile to sort through. The google part came later, but by then we were in mid controntations with our oppositions with ourselves, others, and the broader community. As a private person did I have a choice? I am reading "The Value of Hawai'is Knowing the Past, Shaping the Future" edited by Craig Howes & Jon Osorio because my grandchildren are private school children and are reading this book for their classroom assignments. Back to Dr. Haunani K. regretably, I did not take her classes and find that although, I understand the 'happenings' in my community, I don't have the clear arguments and detailed research that Amelia has. Had I taken her classes, without a doubt my arguments could be stronger. That is what I am stressing with my grandchildren that they never mind the real touch yet, just learn the art of arguing. I do not like Anthropologist across USA for they come from a bone sucking mentality for over 200 years in Hawaii and they have a strong following in Hawaii. It's always a happening here in Hawaii with Anthro partnerships with blood sucking power hungry jerks. It's a struggle with other maoli participants that have a need to just 'drama'. They are lots of drama queen's in every movements in different countries and they are very dangerous to people's action--all pagentry no grounding. On Maoliworld one will come across this phenon. Your research is pertinent to the grounding of the community and the empty academic institutions. Which is my concern because my grandchildren are contributors to the native Hawaiian community. With all the studying they do my grandchildren still go out into the community and do hands on projects on the weekends. My little 12 year old creats crafts, sells on websites, takes her money and create backpacks with lots of school supplies and distribute them to the houseless kids. Walk-a-thons to raise monies are a staple for some of my granchildren as well as feeding housless during the year. So, I am always stressing research, and developing their skills for their contentions in the real world that are backed up with facts, and rational. Here is the lie on my part, I don't want my children's children too close to the native movement! It can be dangerous at times, besides it's full of 'mana' suckers for misuse of power. Just wanted to say thank you and you are right, it's not just about grumbly, research and fact findings are a must. For me it takes team work to show the facts and rational behind the real issues in the Native Hawaiian Community. The spread of nuclear 'isotopes' among Pacific Islanders are my concern every moment of the day. And education is important. However, a lot of energy, I wouldn't say wasted, but spent on the Hawaiian Movement where our people gather, at times, for academic actions--someones hallow contentions can be time consuming and resource sucking. I'm always looking for reality checks and balances with these ivory tower thinkers. Sometimes they forget that the scholarships and R&D's exist in their back pockets because of our oppositions that are bank rolling them. So, for me it's always a double edge sword, and sharp skills are a must on the movement fronts. Mahalo for your support in ones professional way to the Native Hawaiian community. My apologies for the lack of clarity at times.
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hi Kaohi, thank you too.............and I appreciate your presence as well on the forum as well as in the community.......keeps everyone 'in the know'/'in the now'........
Hawaiian Kingdom recognized as a separate nation by England, France, Belgium, and the U.S. during Kamehameha III's period................
note: John Rives was also part of the ancestors of the ROBERT WILCOX families.............these writings posted covers up to 1824 when Liholiho/Kamehameha II and his wife Kamamalu died. Russia recognized the Hawaiian archipelago......then the others recognized our Hawaiian nation. Reference: HAWAII THE RAINBOW LAND by Pope, Archives, Honolulu, Oahu, Hawaii.
I'm still concern over the 1866 travel articles that Mark Twain wrote for Sacramento Union, I believe a lot of what was written was one of the components that led to Liliu's overthrow. Enjoying the music, "...I'll nevah forget where I'm from!..."
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hi Kaohi, Mark Twain's true name was Samuel Clements.......... I have his aged book with a collection of his writings.... just have to go and dig it up..........I especially liked his first article which was a big hit for him....having to do with the survivors of a vessel, sailing in and our Hawaiians went out to meet them......his descriptions of how they looked thin as flagpoles draped with their ragged clothing, how their pet rooster crowed for the last time and dropped dead, how the men ate the scrapings from inside the wheelbarrows, and how some ate their socks.............food was taken out to them when the ship was docked and a Portuguese man downed the most bananas...........think Mark Twain was the reason why everyone pokes fun at the Portogee from that story that gave him celebrity status........... As for being one of the components that led to Liliu's dethronement.......I think it was Sereno Bishop's doing..........Sereno Bishop wrote numerous articles, wicked stuff such as calling those who did "hula and kahuna.......were venomous reptiles who need to be exterminated......." This wicked person was taken cared of by Amamalua (w) and Kalaikini (k)............the ancestors of the Simeona families (Daniel Akaka is a cousin of theirs)............and that family includes the Makekau's who are living on the Big Island...........it appears there are problematic issues because their family surrounded our Queen's hanai daughter.............am working on a report which will be coming out soon... Interesting how there are many kanaka maoli who are not active or opposing the bombing of DU/depleted uranium from the Big Island....what truly was a shock and awe experience for me was when I told some of them about it.............there was a unusual response......almost chilling for me because they really didn't know about such activity..........what? ......what's more...........the kanaka maoli FAIL to step forward and oppose......... yes, we must persevere and speak in behalf of all because the so called alii on the Big Island are not saying a word..........not opposing.............that is truly funny kine........... my great great grandmother was a hanai of Keaweaheulu and is in his probate........... The true Paalua descendants are Kauhi (k); Kaawa (k); Mahina (w); Kaluauiha/Uiha (w); and Kekolohe Kuapuu/Kuapuu (w)........... That Sonny Paalua and his haole friend have tried to get me to acknowledge the genealogy of theirs and to this day, I still cannot............there is a John Paalua who was part of the turncoat /sell out line of Lydia Mahoe/Lydia Aholo Mahoe/Lydia Kamakaia/ Lydia Kaloio...............think that's where his line is coming from..... Note: The point of the post above shows that our Hawaiian Kingdom was recognized by many nations.... Am still waiting for Alfred Spinney, Kai Landow's document intervening in Keanu Sai's suit based on injuries which can accommodate others.............actually all kanaka maoli need to document...........and document the fact that we are not "indigenous" but from an already recognized Hawaiian Kingdom which was pirated by the premeditation moves of the U.S. documented, etc. aloha. p.s. Tina is from the Gilman family of Haleiwa/Waialua...........many of the families who reside there are part of the families of the high chiefs of Kaahumanu...........which is where our families were living......... close to them and adjacent to Kaiaka Bay............now only some of those who truly know about the Hawaiian culture knows what that means.............now let me say hmmmmm...............
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fyi Ku Ching in agreement with Ken Conklin(!) From: Dee Texidor Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 11:23:23 AM Subject: Fw: [kaleimailealii] Fw: [livingnation] StarAdvertiser Editorial - Keep OHA Incumbents - Ken Conklin's Comments, ku's Comments  For your consideration in the OHA Elections: in reply to Ken Conklin - ku says: I often disagree with Mr. Conklin. However, at this time and on this issue - he is totally on track. I am in total agreement with him - or is it that he is totally in agreement with me. I believe that the so-called "akaka" bill will, if passed, like the other "overthrows," be another cross to bear for the kanaka maoli (called Hawaiians by non kanaka maoli) people. As far as I'm concerned, it's (the "akaka" bill) designed to right all the wrongs that the u.s. has committed on the people of this 'aina. With so-called Hawaiians' acquiesence to excessive actions against them - it is a wonder that they have been able to survive this far. By the expected results of the "bill" - that have so many expecting a "return of the so-called (actually "stolen") ceded lands" - and their seemingly agreement to the u.s. having good title to the lands of Pearl Harbor, Schofield Barracks, Volcanoes "National" Park, Haleakala "National" Park, Puukohola Heiau, Honaunau (City of Refuge) and so many other important and sacred kanaka maoli places - the u.s. can be proud that it has pulled off through "legal" stealth what would have cost lots of worthless u.s. dollars. The "bill" will serve to "quiet title" all the legal claims of kanaka maoli (at least in the u.s. legal system) to these lands in the u.s. - the amount of lands that may end up with Hawaiians is pure speculation. Speaking about Hawaiians - a passage of "the bill" will unfortunately "recognize" those Hawaiians who will support the bill and "de-recognize" the kanaka maoli who don't and won't - driving another divisive wedge between the Hawaiian/kanaka maoli people - which will provide another milestone on the road to the "divide and conquer" policy of the u.s. that has been used so effectively against all of its "indigenous" peoples. The effects of "Terra Nullis" and the Papal Bulls continue - and kanaka maoli are set back yet another time - the result of complicity and intent of empire and power. kuching Ken Conklin I disagree strongly with this editorial. Vote against the incumbents as the only way we have to vote against the Akaka bill. Here's how to vote in the OHA contests if you agree with me: O'ahu seat: Vote for Jackie Burke -- she strongly and openly opposes the Akaka bill; and she has the education and work experience to actually help OHA do a few good things. Maui seat: Vote blank. The incumbent Boyd Mossman is the only candidate, so show your opposition to Mossman by giving him a blank. I'll bet "blank" will get more votes than Mossman! Three at-large seats: Vote for Keali'i Makekau, who opposes the Akaka bill and who furthermore says (correctly!) the bill is unconstitutional. I'm also recommending Kama Hopkins, who is an aide to Big Island trustee Robert Lindsey. Hopkins, like Lindsey, is a mellow fellow who focuses on monitoring the effectiveness of OHA programs and being accountable to the people. You have three votes for the at-large seats, but I recommend only those two candidates. When voting for OHA trustees, there are two things to remember. (a) Thanks to the Rice v. Cayetano decision by the U.S. Supreme Court in February 2000, there is no longer racial segregation in voting for OHA trustees. Every registered voter, regardless of race, can vote for OHA trustees. (b) The O'ahu and Maui seats are specific to those islands only in requiring that the candidates must be residents of those islands; however, every registered voter living anywhere in Hawaii gets to vote for all OHA seats, regardless where the voter lives. It's a weird system, but designed to ensure that each of the five most populous islands (Kaua'i, O'ahu, Maui, Moloka'i, and Hawai'i Island) has at least one resident serving as OHA trustee, even though the great majority of voters live on O'ahu. Just remember: If your ballot offers you the opportunity to vote in a contest, it's not a mistake -- you can vote for the O'ahu seat even if you do not live on O'ahu. One more thing: If you hate the Akaka bill, then vote AGAINST Charles Djou in Congressional District #1. Djou and Hanabusa hold exactly the same views on the Akaka bill -- they both support it strongly. But Djou, as a Republican, will be able to speak to his Republican colleagues and persuade some of them to vote for the bill, when those Republicans would never listen to Hanabusa. Nearly every Democrat in the HOuse votes for the Akaka bill. It's Republican votes they need in the next Congress when the Republicans will be in control, so vote AGAINST Djou for that reason.  interesting... ----- Original Message ----- From: kahiwal@cs.com To: livingnation@yahoogroups.com Subject: [livingnation] StarAdvertiser Editorial - Keep OHA Incumbents - Ken Conklin's Comments, ku's Comments Keep OHA incumbents - [ku: Heck No!] Editorial Page - StarAdvertiser POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Oct 23, 2010 The primary issue facing trustees of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs is, ironically, a piece of legislation that ultimately would lead to OHA's dissolution. It's the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act, better known for the past 10 years of its existence, in various forms, as the Akaka Bill. Its namesake, Hawaii's U.S. Sen. Daniel Akaka, said in a recent address at the Council for Native Hawaiian Advancement convention that he's got support for getting it on the calendar for a final vote by the U.S. Senate sometime during the lame-duck session that will follow the Nov. 2 election. Whether Akaka's rosy outlook will be borne out in the closing weeks of Congress is uncertain at best. But the fact remains that the bill, which already has passed the House, is better positioned for enactment now than it's ever been or is likely to be again in the foreseeable future. There is limited bipartisan support for it now but it enjoys far more enthusiastic backing from a Democratic majority in both chambers that is certainly at risk of being thinned or overturned. And this White House is on record as supportive, as long as it clears that last Capitol Hill hurdle. If it does, the labyrinthine process enabled by the bill — the creation of a new governmental entity that will take over OHA's custody of the native Hawaiian trust money and lands — will be helped by continuity on OHA's governing board of trustees. OHA's competence can serve the broader electorate as well: If the trust helps bolster the health of the Hawaiian community, that will take some strain off the social safety net that taxpayers support. Three at-large seats and one representing the island of Oahu will be filled this year, and the Star-Advertiser believes the interests of the trust beneficiaries will be best fulfilled with the election of the incumbent candidates. They are, in the at-large race: » Rowena Akana has brought an occasionally contentious but valuable viewpoint to discussions about management of OHA assets since her first election in 1990. On the federal-recognition issue, she rightly advocates that OHA stay focused on finances and not on the politics of convening the permanent governmental body that will replace OHA. » Oswald "Oz" Stender is another veteran of OHA and formerly of the Campbell Estate who survived the rocky end times of the Bishop Estate before its reformation. His skills would be very helpful if the Akaka Bill pass, and his recent work on behalf of native Hawaiian scholarships further underscores why his re-election would further OHA's mission. » John Waihee IV seems to have bounced back from disturbing lapses in his last term that culminated a fine for a driving-under-the-influence charge. He was part of a move to refocus grant funds on projects with the most broad-based social impact. This strategic plan makes sense, given the battering the trust fund received in the financial collapse of 2008. In the Oahu race the standout candidates include former lawmaker and OHA trustee Peter Apo, who also would serve the board well if he emerges on top of the balloting. However, the Star-Advertiser's endorsement goes to the one currently on the board, Walter Heen, the retired judge who also sat in the Legislature and the Honolulu City Council. His judicial and legal background should continue to be useful to the board, especially now. One fair critique of OHA is that its service to native Hawaiian trust beneficiaries could have been improved over the years with a greater turnover on the trustee board, injecting broader professional expertise into the conduct of its business. But at this juncture there very well could be monumental changes on the horizon, and a wholesale changing of the guard would not be the best Election Day result for OHA or the people it serves. _______________________________________ COMMENTS Ken Conklin I disagree strongly with this editorial. Vote against the incumbents as the only way we have to vote against the Akaka bill. Here's how to vote in the OHA contests if you agree with me: O'ahu seat: Vote for Jackie Burke -- she strongly and openly opposes the Akaka bill; and she has the education and work experience to actually help OHA do a few good things. Maui seat: Vote blank. The incumbent Boyd Mossman is the only candidate, so show your opposition to Mossman by giving him a blank. I'll bet "blank" will get more votes than Mossman! Three at-large seats: Vote for Keali'i Makekau, who opposes the Akaka bill and who furthermore says (correctly!) the bill is unconstitutional. I'm also recommending Kama Hopkins, who is an aide to Big Island trustee Robert Lindsey. Hopkins, like Lindsey, is a mellow fellow who focuses on monitoring the effectiveness of OHA programs and being accountable to the people. You have three votes for the at-large seats, but I recommend only those two candidates. When voting for OHA trustees, there are two things to remember. (a) Thanks to the Rice v. Cayetano decision by the U.S. Supreme Court in February 2000, there is no longer racial segregation in voting for OHA trustees. Every registered voter, regardless of race, can vote for OHA trustees. (b) The O'ahu and Maui seats are specific to those islands only in requiring that the candidates must be residents of those islands; however, every registered voter living anywhere in Hawaii gets to vote for all OHA seats, regardless where the voter lives. It's a weird system, but designed to ensure that each of the five most populous islands (Kaua'i, O'ahu, Maui, Moloka'i, and Hawai'i Island) has at least one resident serving as OHA trustee, even though the great majority of voters live on O'ahu. Just remember: If your ballot offers you the opportunity to vote in a contest, it's not a mistake -- you can vote for the O'ahu seat even if you do not live on O'ahu. One more thing: If you hate the Akaka bill, then vote AGAINST Charles Djou in Congressional District #1. Djou and Hanabusa hold exactly the same views on the Akaka bill -- they both support it strongly. But Djou, as a Republican, will be able to speak to his Republican colleagues and persuade some of them to vote for the bill, when those Republicans would never listen to Hanabusa. Nearly every Democrat in the HOuse votes for the Akaka bill. It's Republican votes they need in the next Congress when the Republicans will be in control, so vote AGAINST Djou for that reason. _________________________________ in reply to Ken Conklin - ku says: I often disagree with Mr. Conklin. However, at this time and on this issue - he is totally on track. I am in total agreement with him - or is it that he is totally in agreement with me. I believe that the so-called "akaka" bill will, if passed, like the other "overthrows," be another cross to bear for the kanaka maoli (called Hawaiians by non kanaka maoli) people. As far as I'm concerned, it's (the "akaka" bill) designed to right all the wrongs that the u.s. has committed on the people of this 'aina. With so-called Hawaiians' acquiesence to excessive actions against them - it is a wonder that they have been able to survive this far. By the expected results of the "bill" - that have so many expecting a "return of the so-called (actually "stolen") ceded lands" - and their seemingly agreement to the u.s. having good title to the lands of Pearl Harbor, Schofield Barracks, Volcanoes "National" Park, Haleakala "National" Park, Puukohola Heiau, Honaunau (City of Refuge) and so many other important and sacred kanaka maoli places - the u.s. can be proud that it has pulled off through "legal" stealth what would have cost lots of worthless u.s. dollars. The "bill" will serve to "quiet title" all the legal claims of kanaka maoli (at least in the u.s. legal system) to these lands in the u.s. - the amount of lands that may end up with Hawaiians is pure speculation. Speaking about Hawaiians - a passage of "the bill" will unfortunately "recognize" those Hawaiians who will support the bill and "de-recognize" the kanaka maoli who don't and won't - driving another divisive wedge between the Hawaiian/kanaka maoli people - which will provide another milestone on the road to the "divide and conquer" policy of the u.s. that has been used so effectively against all of its "indigenous" peoples. The effects of "Terra Nullis" and the Papal Bulls continue - and kanaka maoli are set back yet another time - the result of complicity and intent of empire and power. kuching __._,_.___ note: the Claims/criminal claims to Pearl Harbor is documented..........fraud vitiates all claims and all contracts..............the descendants of Grace Kamaikui exist the descendants of Mataio Kekuanaoa exists...........including myself and our families.............I did document frauds in the Court case..........wicked acts against humanity...........premeditation to assume Pearl Harbor has been found.......it'll not go away...............our Queen was given back Hawaii by President Cleveland....the Hawaiian Kingdom exists!
http://api.ning.com/files/SLVkHplMqSQJs1KU6BiIoDi0OWo92zKovDXjRgTvQ... gatling gun = duress issues, etc. _
Mahalo for all what you do, we had the calm now the storm. Brother Kaumakaiwa Kanakaole was needed, thanks again for touching the very private part of my spirit with his music. And yes, the Hawaiian Kingdom exist and the very ones that will continue her work just as my relatives did, soap on the left and a towel on the right exist. My tutu's left these items on the stone beside her favorite place to bathe in the stream at Maunawili. She was surrounded with her favorite rose flower's such as the one she wrote about in her third verse of 'Aloha Oe.' Your research is solid!
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hi Kaohi, thank you.......... am sending info to others for consult .............
Check out the new videos interviewing Leuren Moret by Jeff Rense: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKdXHD6BTKk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CkuYt9xfXQ&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZzvHwYuI-k&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRDpXyK1PkM&feature=related am glad Leuren Moret has done show(s) with Jeff Rense..........these are recently posted videos only 15 hours............aloha.
Mahalo we must continue the education of what can happen in the future with our beautiful children in our future. They are sponge bob's and didn't ask for this burden. Their future will be plagued with lot's of sickness and early death. So truly sad!! If only Big Island spent time on being true leaders and fought the issue from a 'smart' front rather than 'I want to be friends with the world'. So bad!

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